Football Jesus AKA John Miller

[TravisATL]

Now i'm aware other posts have been posted about him on this forum. I'm also aware he is a member of this site, but here goes. If i can save one person from this guy I hope this will help

I bought his baseball package for the month of July for 900 dollars. John release anywhere from 2 to 4 games a day. To say it was a disaster would be and understatement. John was 53 game under 500 for the month of july. I couldnt believe his excuses he started making. First he said that no one was doing well in baseball to well thats why his clients get the football package so that they can get baseball for free.


I continue to complain so he gave me August for free. Well he continued to suck. I told him I was going to post his plays to show everyone the joke he was. Well then he stated I will send you your money back not to do that. So A week later I have yet to recieve a check . He stated his people got the address wrong but would have me a tracking number by the next day. Here we sit 5 days later, no check, no tracking number so ive had enough. I had his football plays last year as well. His Bonus Plays are his best plays. Let me tell you how he works during football.

For example last night He claims he gave out N.E -4 when it opened. He gives out lines that no one can get. Then last night he releases Miami + 7 1/2 in an attempt to middle it. I can promise you he is not middling anything. He is claiming he is already at 73% in NFL. Now i may not be a math major but he was 4 - 5 which lol doesnt equal 73%.

Thank you for reading this. I realize I have zero chance to recieve any money or check now from him but I hope to spare some of you guys from this douce bag. AVOID THIS GUY.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about him

 

[TravisATL]

another prime example of how he is, here is an excerpt from twitter


FootballJesus Football Jesus Vegas



BIG $ bettors in vegas who got #Broncos at PKem now taking some back on #Raiders+3.5 to go for a middle op...#MondayNightFootball #Betting


No one and I mean no one got the Broncos at Pkem. He is a joke. I can promise just like last year if Broncos would have won by 3 or less he would have claimed he won both sides with the middle. I can promise you he PKEM was never out there nor was -4 for the pats

 

[joe361]

Why would you buy baseball plays from a guy named Football Jesus?

 

[savage1]

Why would you buy baseball plays from a guy named Football Jesus?

Why would anyone buy ANY plays from someone using a name like that?
Again from the old song and changing the lyrics slightly to fit the circumstances:

"I don't care it rains or freezes
So long as I DON'T play the picks of my plastic Football Jesus
Riding on the monitor of my computer."

 

[TravisATL]

Joe not a budin homer or anything but you have got to be loosing your a$$ if your fading budin. How could you make money fading him?

 

[99steak]

I bought his baseball package for the month of July for 900 dollars

You paid $900 for 1 month? You are crazy. If you have that kind of money can you get toutbuster.com. No one is willing to post his picks because he bans people who posts but you can set up a email group instead of posting. Some guy is trying to start a pool (i made a thread regarding this) but if you spend 900/month for picks 750 for 12 months is nothing. And this guy actually wins. He is not a handicapper, he just uses a method where he tracks 100's of sports services and comes up with the best fade/follow for the day. He never plays more than 3 games a day. I get his plays from service plays section of different forums but no one posts his plays on a consistent basis and it is a hassle to look for it in multiple forum. The dude is 13-6 since the start of football (sept 1) combined in ncaaf and nfl so far. If you can set up something it woudl be awesome. I can chip in $100 towards the subscription. If you don't want to pay everything youc an probably get a few ppl to chip in. If you can do it, pm me your paypal id and i will chip in $100 towards the subscription.

 

[99steak]

also we have to get it before 7pm today because after today its not the same amount for full year.

 

[mcmc]

appriciate the heads up!

A lot of good posters in here, bust out during football season!

gl

 

[johnnylightning]

tough spot for you, i am in a group who pooled 40 apiece to get a service that we can't post on here & we have faded him & killed it this weekend

 

[calk411]

It seems that FootballJesus who does not verify one play is back to his same stuff, the lines he puts out and claims to win are ridiculous. And that might be an understatement.

 

[TravisATL]

thanks for the feedback if i can stop one guy from loosing money to this clown. Sorry to the mods' for posting this in the wrong area

 

[TravisATL]

so he sent message tonight that his phone was stolen but would get my check out. What a joke

 

[calk411]

funny footballjesus told me had phone problems also when he was losing in basketball in February 2010, if he is so good why does lose so much? His rival on twitter is much better.

 

[TravisATL]

Im very confused by his last tweet.

earlier this summer Pro bettors in vegas Jumped on #OklahomaState -7 for game sat - Now looking to buy BACK #Tulsa a big Home dog +13.5 +14

Ive called several books plus spoke with MGM ok State never opened at anything under -11. Where is the world is FBJ getting his number? This guy is an absolute joke. Please call him out on this

 

[TravisATL]

im sorry also vegas does not put lines up for week 3 during summer on a game such as this. Maybe you could make me believe Vegas would release a line such as OK v FSU or a major bowl implication game but OKSTATE i dont think so . All I want is honesty

 

[cashgrinder]

the guy is an absolute joke. is completely illiterate. no bettor who tries to swindle people for picks is a big time winner. the big time winners dont share anything.
the golden nugget and hilton did release many game of the years throughout the summer and people could get bets in. they were a $1k limit. so for him to say big money bettors shows how much of an idiot he truly is..

 

[ryangenero]

The Golden Nugget put out SEVERAL lines in JUNE for what they called "games of the year" thats when OK state was -7... if u get his texts YEAR round like I do, you CAN get on early Numbers...lots of bettors in vegas to this... Fezzik, Teddy covers etc.. smart sharps like these guys get GOOD numbers. Broncos WERE pk on Aug 20...

yeas this season his baseball bets hit a complete slide this summer, but I won a TON in basketball with him 24-11 in MAY, 9-1 in June.. YES baseball blew chunks.. cant defend his plays there... but he kicked ass in week 1 football...I can attest to that.... if you want more details just PM me i have worked with Football Jesus for over a year If you bet large amounts its worth it

 

[joe361]

Joe not a budin homer or anything but you have got to be loosing your a$$ if your fading budin. How could you make money fading him?

I don't but I like to track him and hopefully people see he's a complete joke. My theory is that he's a long term loser.

 

[calk411]

Ryan, is this same magic ticket that the FootballJesus got on the Grey Cup last year? Montreal won by 2! The line was 2 1/2, NOT 1 1/2 never was! Yet he claims he won the Grey Cup when he actually lost. I know people who were killed by his NCAA basketball plays in Jan/Feb, his baseball 180 games below .500 and his Football in wk 1 NCAAF was bad, he did good in WK 2. The Nugget did not have OKIE ST - TULSA as a future bet at -7.

 

[TravisATL]

Ryan if your such good buddies with him then ask him where my money is. He swore he has sent it off twice. No dice. Now he will not answer his phone. Complete complete scam and I will go out of my way to ruin him. I think its funny he blocked me from twitter. Scared of the truth getting out. How in the world could anyone defend this piece of sh*T. Hell for all i know Ryan may very well be John. Who knows. If you are I will continue to expose you